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Because I'm genuinely curious...

How does that CatDog picture have 1000 favorites?

I'm not asking about it because I'm ungrateful for it in any way, shape, or form.  I'm asking because that picture isn't good.  And very clearly so.  Well CatDog himself looks absolutely fine in it though I think I forgot to put that spot on Dog's eye (though it doesn't seem like anyone noticed at all).  But that background is the laziest, most rushed thing I've ever done and yet...somehow everyone thinks that picture is good?  

I mean, there's good pictures in my gallery...that one's not it though.  Glad you guys like it but...I just don't see why it's worthy of that much attention...
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shelzie Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Because fanart > everything in the eyes of the internet, unfortunately.

Also hello. xD
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Nov 26, 2012
Sadly this is true. I spent a ton of time on an illustration commission and I thought it was really nice and pretty but it gets overshadowed by fan art. I guess I don't mind it when I think the fan art is good though. :XD:

And hi! We completely haven't talked in a long time. ^^;
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shelzie Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Yes I've been terrible at keeping up with my devART, it's kind of fallen to the wayside sadly =_= A friend of mine found that awesome Scyther anatomical drawing you did on tumblr and showed it to me, and I was like hay I know that person haha. :D

And yes I try to only put up fanart that I'm proud of so that I don't have to be annoyed heh. Same applies for certain animals honestly, I got SUPER fed up once upon a time because people were giving a ton of attention to the wolf and fox drawings that I'd do for other people's characters and ignore my (mainly sighthound and toy breed) OCs. Which I'm sure I've ranted about xD
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Nov 27, 2012
Yeah, I haven't been nearly as active here as I have been in the past. I'm more active on Tumblr and FurAffinity. I don't even know why I stopped being too active here. ^^;

I draw a lot of fan art and some of it I'm proud of some of it is just..."meh". But I notice (on any site I post art on) that quick sketches, really silly stuff, and "not serious" fan art gets more attention than the stuff I put effort into and really like. I'd like to say that doesn't make me sad but it kinda does.

And that sucks that people don't pay as much attention to the other animals you draw. You're fantastic at simplifying anatomy but still making each animal and especially each dog breed you draw very distinct. I'm still trying to figure out why wolves and foxes are so popular. :XD: They're pretty but I don't get why everyone gravitates to them for characters.

(Though I'm one to talk...I do have fox characters...that I never draw. ^^; )
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Coronadofwb Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2012
I think, based on the comments you received on the deviation, that it's mainly a nostalgia thing. You also gave the characters more emphasis using your own style, and showing the characters personalities in a unique way. It may hardly be your best, but it's an image you did that just worked all around :)
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2012
I guess so.

I still find it weird. Especially since I just feel like the things that get effort put in to them should get more views but I guess on DA that's not how things work. ^^;
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Coronadofwb Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Well I thought about this for some time, and I think about `balaa and the intricate work she does, yet a speed painting of hers she didn't put much effort into became her most favorited deviation in just a matter of days, and it made me wonder why this was. I think that when viewing an artist's work, you can tell how they were when they did the picture, ie, relaxed versus stressed or pressured. A bit of psychology there. That's just my thoughts, I can't be sure otherwise. Based on the outcome of this picture you seemed really relaxed, like you just let everything flow. That could be a possible reason.
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
I thought of that possibility.

But there's certain pictures I have more fun with and I'm more open to joking around with commentors or poking fun at what I've drawn and just all around being silly with it. I clearly have fun with those but for some reason I'm not sure that ever shows through. There's plenty of pictures that I like that are very silly, quickly drawn, etc. but those don't seem to get the same amount of feedback.

I dunno...I guess I'll just chock it up to the nostalgia factor here.
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Coronadofwb Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Yes, that does seem true. There is a psychology to it, but I can't seem to find the right words to explain it clearly. The fantastic artist =zorm struggles with this greatly as well. Generally only her fanart gets any attention when she wants critiques on her originals. It seems you must be really appealing artistically. I know of stick figure comics here on dA, though I don't know what the account is, gets tremendous faves on each page, when very little effort was put into page, but they're liked because of popular culture, or it's just relatable, it's not really for the "art" at all. If the art just doesn't invigorate the senses, it's not to be liked for what it is it seems.
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QUICKMASTER Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Student Filmographer
I think, It is in the same situation like some people loves to play Mine_craft more than Super high graphic game nowadays.

- Game-play VS Graphic

- Content VS Design


for me , I found it has a humor element and I like it.
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012
Yeah the humor element is probably what people like (after the nostalgia factor).
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FuzzyAcornIndustries Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Lol! So what do I do in response to this journal? Start faving other pictures of yours... |3
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012
Best thing is that Renamon picture (as flawed as it is) is still one of my favorite things I've ever drawn. ^^;
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FuzzyAcornIndustries Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Yup, faved that. :3
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TheFlamingZebra Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because it's a product of a recognizable character :/ When it comes to fanmade things if it's DECENT and of it's of something they love, they'll go after it. And sometimes simpler is more appealing to the eye? So while you might not have spent loads of time on the background, the rushed style works VERY well with the characters IN it.

Also "good" is also in the eye of the beholder I think. You are the most critical of yourself. But to the majority of people on here (a good amount who view art or only dabble in art) that picture is FLAWLESS. And while no, it's not as refined as your other works, that's where KNOWING the characters comes in.
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012
At the same time, I've done tons of pokemon fan art and none of it has ever gotten the attention that that thing has. Both have the nostalgia factor behind it.

I guess I'm the odd one out. Simple stuff is great and a few people do it so well that it is really eye catching, but to me detailed stuff stands out way more.
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TheFlamingZebra Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
But a lot of people don't like the more realistic or stylized versions of Pokemon. And you left Catdog in a style pretty similar to the shows - or at least your style didn't change them so much?

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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012
Really? From what I see, a lot of people love stylized or realistic pokemon. Though I guess you have to already be popular or it really has to be amazing for people to actually care about them.

And I felt that style looked nothing like the show's style...Like...CatDog's art style is far more simplified. Like...amazingly more simplified and toony.
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TheFlamingZebra Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I guess it just comes down to perception and opinion then. XD
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PrinceofPride Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
My guess is it's due to the fact that it's a recognizable character from a series that people usually don't see fanart of very often. So basically people see and and instead of looking at the background they see catdog and think "Oh hey! It's catdog!" and fave it purely off of that fact. Another thing I've noticed on DA is people seem to be drawn to (totally did not intend that pun) simple or rushed art. I know a lot of people that if I showed them a rushed toony pic and a full out painting they would say they prefer the cartoon one. Not to mention canines and felines are popular in general. That's my take on it at least.
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012
The being drawn to simple/rushed art seems to just be a general internet thing (except for on serious art sites...which I don't fit in anyways). I dunno...I just don't get why people like rushed stuff so much. It just seems to be a staple thing of every site or every person I've talked to. Their "quick sketches/doodles" get more attention than their polished up stuff. Which doesn't make any sense to me 'cause the polished stuff usually looks better (in my opinion anyways).
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PrinceofPride Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I prefer the polished stuff as well. I remember showing a friend at school some art by one of my favorite DA artists, and some kid randomly comes in and says how he isn't impressed and how he thinks "realism is overrated" and he prefers a "simpler style." A lot of people I've met seem to have that type of attitude. I don't like it though, because I know how much work artists put into their more polished art so it makes me sad to see it ignored in favor of the stuff that hardly took any effort.
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SombraStudio Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012
To be fair, I wouldn't say that a simple style hardly takes effort. I have a simple, toony style I work in but it still takes a lot of effort to do it well (for instance any time I do MLP art...that's pretty much my toony style). But there's clear things that I know I don't put a lot of effort into and yet those seem to be the things that catch attention much more quickly than anything else.

It's sad that people think realism is overrated though. Realism is tough and I give major props to everyone who works in that style. I should do more of it. I actually think my realism far trumps everything else I do. But it's really tough to draw a lot of it.
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PrinceofPride Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I know not all simple styles are easy, it's just the artist that this guy actually did like was one of those artists that rushed everything.

It seems that the two things that are sometimes overlooked on DA are realism and artwork of humans.
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